模板討論:Synthesizer V
MAN-F1、MAN-M1、JA-F1均為Dreamtonics內測聲庫，而不是Animen產品。——以上未簽名(註)本條留言未簽名，留言後請記得用--~~~~簽名！的留言由Guest615695028（討論·貢獻）於2021年11月3日 (三) 21:44 (UTC+8)添加。
關於 MAN-F1、MAN-M1、JA-F1 聲庫歸屬的討論
初代 Syntheszier V Editor 與 MAN-F1、MAN-M1、JA-F1、ENG-F1 聲庫是由開發者華侃如在 2017 年之前開發的產品，這時 Dreamtonics 公司還沒有成立，要論歸屬應該屬於華侃如本人。
2018 年華侃如到 Animen 日本分公司的辦公室工作，發佈了初代 Syntheszier V Editor 與 ENG-F1（愛蓮娜·芙緹）聲庫，這一代產品由 Animen 提供授權，可視為華侃如將產品交付給了 Animen JP。
直到 2019 年 2 月 Dreantonics 公司才正式成立，從此往後開發的二代 Synthesizer V Studio 產品（如 Saki、MAN-F3）才真正歸屬於 Dreantonics 公司。 只憑聲庫名字就將從前的聲庫歸屬 Dreantonics 實在欠妥，除非找出切實的證據，個人不同意將 MAN-F1、MAN-M1、JA-F1 放進 Dreantonics 分組，它們應該保持現狀，與 ENG-F1（愛蓮娜·芙緹）在一起。
- @Guest615695028 --LinR隱衛（討論） 2021年11月3日 (三) 23:12 (CST)
對於內測聲庫條目的相關回應
感謝您可以指出這個問題。這三個內測聲庫的代號是在我創建條目及相關分類時就已經加入，因為在之後疏於管理，並且本人已經退出相關的圈子，所以對具體變化的詳情不是非常了解。
請編輯者針對您提出的問題進行修改，但是我希望可以保留這三個條目，或者直接把超連結刪去，只保留這麼幾串文字，因為我覺得儘管這些聲庫是內測用的，但也是可以在某種程度代表Synthesizer V之發展歷史的。
- @Guest615695028 --WindowsRX（討論） 2021年11月3日 (三) 23:14 (CST)
Weina
My apologies in advance for not writing in Chinese. My skills are too poor, unfortunately. Regarding my edit for Weina, I figured I should discuss it here. I made a change by adding her to the "English" line as well. The reason is that it seems, for the International Dreamtonics Store, she is regarded as a bilingual vocalist in both Chinese and English. I was unsure if it should count on here as well. Through thorough discussion on the English Synthesizer V Wiki, we decided to mark her as both Chinese and English simply because Dreamtonics not only wrote this on her product page, but also sorted her categories as Chinese and English language products (which they do the same for Taobao too).
From what we understand, the reason Dreamtonics seemed to count her as a bilingual vocal is because they recorded her with Chinese and English data, seeming to aim for more accurate pronunciation in both languages. Her page specifically says "Synthesizer V AI Weina is a bilingual (English and Mandarin Chinese) voice database created from a close collaboration between Dreamtonics and renowned vocalist Weina Hu." and "Thanks to Dreamtonics’ leading cross-language synthesis technology, in Synthesizer V Studio Pro Weina is able to sing songs in Japanese with near-native ability. In the process of making, a carefully curated selection of Chinese and English songs as the training data gives Weina an extra edge of nailing the pronunciations."
It also makes me very curious about 星塵Infinity since she had Japanese and English data recorded (according to this) but maybe 平行四界 personally doesn't count her as trilingual? I think what just makes this a very confusing thing is that no matter what, Weina is always set to Chinese by default while English and Japanese are options for Cross-lingual. They're not separated voicebanks (which led to a very long discussion between the English wiki editors). I just wasn't sure if Weina should be separate in this template or not based on what Dreamtonics thinks versus what everyone else thinks.
Thank you!
-Valenceon（討論） 2022年7月26日 (二) 10:37 (CST)
- @Valenceon: Emmm... I think that if the official product page call her a "bilingual voice database", there's no problem for us to classify her as English voicebank, especially she's also recorded with English data. Nowadays all the SynthV AI singers could sing in multiple languages, although in the SynthV software her default language is Chinese, in my opinion what the official said is more important.( Similarly, Quadimension only count Infinity as a Chinese Singer, so do us)
- A small tip, according to 萌娘百科:方針#文件管理政策 4.2, the pics only used in talk pages shouldn't be uploaded to the moegirl commons, you could upload them to other image hosting websites.(for example, sm.ms)
- Thanks for your edits! :)—— 不是液氮 (討論•貢獻) 2022年7月28日 (四) 22:37 (CST)
- @不是液氮: Thank you so much for the response! English SynthV Wiki came to the same conclusion with Infinity; since they count her as a Chinese singer rather than trilingual despite having the English/Japanese data, we would do the same. We just have to be extremely clear with the difference between Weina and Infinity in case anyone asks. And thank you for the tip! I'll try to keep that in mind next time. .w./
- Valenceon（討論） 2022年7月29日 (五) 06:24 (CST)
關於語種分類
2023年10月3日，SynthV第一款粵語聲庫發佈試聽。個人認為以中文概括普通話和粵語無法強調「粵語聲庫」的重要性。個人希望能夠修改根據SynthV軟件內的語種分類（漢語普通話、漢語廣東話、日語、英語）修改。
第一次發表討論，如有錯誤還請多多指正。
-楊梅乾（討論） 2023年10月4日（三） 11:15(CST)
(＋)同意 中文對應的口語叫「漢語」；漢語普通話在樂壇普遍稱「華語」。——西城0704（討論） 2024年4月6日 (六) 16:55 (CST)
有關白神芽音
最近出現一位基於SVAI技術的虛擬主播IP，經查詢確認為事實，而聲庫目前在只供內部使用的狀態。
--邪雲P（討論） 2024年6月7日 (五) 12:53 (CST)
- 想到了牧星Syki（基於ACE Studio）--北湖3（討論） 2024年6月7日 (五) 22:38 (CST)